  {"id":19860,"date":"2022-11-03T13:48:23","date_gmt":"2022-11-03T18:48:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uwm.edu\/letters-science\/?p=19860"},"modified":"2023-12-04T14:47:23","modified_gmt":"2023-12-04T20:47:23","slug":"professors-podcast-parses-psychology-in-the-patient","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uwm.edu\/letters-science\/in-focus-2022\/professors-podcast-parses-psychology-in-the-patient\/","title":{"rendered":"Professor\u2019s podcast parses psychology in \u201cThe Patient\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The first episode of Hulu\u2019s \u201cThe Patient\u201d opens on Alan, played by Steve Carrell, waking up in a basement bedroom. He sits up and stares in horror as he realizes there is a cuff and chain around his ankle, holding him prisoner.<\/p>\n<p>As the show progresses, it is revealed that Alan, a therapist, has been kidnapped by one of his patients. The young man, played by Domhnall Gleeson, has homicidal ideations and is desperate for Alan to cure him of his murderous compulsions.<\/p>\n<p>When Dr. Stacey Nye saw the show\u2019s synopsis, she knew she had her next podcast.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is the show for me because I\u2019m a psychologist. It\u2019s a show about a serial killer. What more could I want in a show?\u201d she laughed.<\/p>\n<p>Nye is a clinical professor of psychology at 51ÁÔÆæ and runs the university\u2019s Psychology Clinic. She\u2019s also an experienced podcaster and a self-professed true crime junkie. Most recently, she\u2019s the co-host of &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.strawhutmedia.com\/psychoanalyzing-the-patient\">Psychoanalyzing the Patient<\/a>,&#8221; a companion podcast to the show that delves into the series\u2019 psychological groundings.<\/p>\n<h3>Patiently podcasting<\/h3>\n<p>Nye is an old hand at podcasting. Her first podcast, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theshitthathappenstomepodcast.com\/\"><strong>The Sh*t That Happens to Me<\/strong><\/a>,\u201d has over 75 episodes in its back catalogue in which she hosts guests like SNL alum <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm7576527\/\">Lauren Holt<\/a><\/strong> or local radio personalities Vince Vitrano and Andy \u201cRiggs\u201d Riggle to talk about the \u2013 ahem, stuff \u2013 that makes life funny.<\/p>\n<p>When she pitched her new podcast idea to her producers at Straw Hut Media, they gave the green light and \u201cPsychoanalyzing the Patient\u201d was born.<\/p>\n<p>In each episode, Nye and her cohost, Lindsay Jones, dissect one corresponding episode of the show \u2013 the things that struck them, their reactions, their predictions. Each episode also features a guest with expertise related to the show.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where Jones\u2019 connections really shine. Jones is a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lindsayjones.com\/\"><strong>music and sound designer<\/strong><\/a> for film, television, and theater. He and Nye met when he appeared as a guest on \u201cThe Sh*t That Happens to Me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI knew what he did for a living, but I didn\u2019t realize when I asked him (to co-host \u2018Psychoanalyzing the Patient\u2019) that he actually knew three of the cast members of the show already,\u201d Nye laughed.<\/p>\n<p>Guests have included \u201cThe Patient\u201d cast members <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0631146\/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0\"><strong>Laura Niemi<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0256599\/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1\"><strong>Linda Emond<\/strong><\/a>, as well as the show\u2019s Emmy Award-winning score composer, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0056550\/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0\"><strong>Nathan Barr<\/strong><\/a>. But if you\u2019re going to psychoanalyze the show, you need some psychoanalysts, so Nye also brought on psychologist <a href=\"https:\/\/education.uconn.edu\/person\/james-kaufman\/\"><strong>James Kaufman<\/strong><\/a> and forensics expert <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/laurapettler.com\/\">Laura Pettler<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the most meaningful guest appeared on the podcast\u2019s pilot episode: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.franksummersphd.com\/\"><strong>Dr. Frank Summers<\/strong><\/a>, a clinical psychologist who was also Nye\u2019s mentor in graduate school.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI wanted to hear some of his thoughts about Sam (the prospective serial killer character) and I wanted his perspective as a therapist. I had to do a little walking him through how to sign up for Hulu and how to watch the show,\u201d she said, laughing, \u201cbut it was really fun and his episode is very popular.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Summers gave his take on the first episode of \u201cThe Patient,\u201d examining how Alan conducts therapy appointments with his patients. He also pointed out a potential misstep on the character\u2019s part which may have led to his abduction, a detail that Nye missed and one which still gives her a bit of consternation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve told a bunch of my students that if you want to see your supervisor get corrected by her supervisor, listen to my first episode,\u201d Nye joked.<\/p>\n<p>The podcast has received glowing reviews from its listeners, and Nye says she\u2019s had a blast recording the show. Sadly, she said, it does not look like there will be a second season of \u201cThe Patient,\u201d and the podcast will end with the show. Even so, \u201cit\u2019s rather addicting doing these podcasts. I\u2019ve had so much fun.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And, she noted, the title \u201cPsychoanalyzing the&#8230;\u201d lends itself to a variety shows. If Nye finds another good series, she\u2019s hopeful that there will be even more new podcasts to record in the future.<\/p>\n<h3>A criminal fascination<\/h3>\n<p>Nye\u2019s been enjoying watching the fictional serial killer, but she\u2019s got an appetite for true crime as well. She\u2019s not alone; millions of people, the majority of them women, binge-watch true crime shows, listen to true crime podcasts, and devour true crime novels and other media.<\/p>\n<p>So, why are so many people drawn to murders and unsolved mysteries?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are a lot of reasons why it\u2019s so popular,\u201d Nye said. \u201cI think we\u2019re really fascinated by evil. I think we really like to solve puzzles.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I think for women in particular, in many ways, they have the sense that it helps them feel more prepared,\u201d she added. \u201cAlmost always, but not exclusively, these crimes are against women. Women are listening and feeling like they are learning things about how to be careful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Nye said, the fans of one of her personal favorite podcasts, \u201cMy Favorite Murder,\u201d refer to themselves as \u201cMurderinos\u201d who often use the acronym SSDGM: Stay Sexy and Don\u2019t Get Murdered.<\/p>\n<p>If this is one of the reasons why so many women are true crime devotees, Nye thinks it\u2019s because this demographic has realized they have a profound vulnerability.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c(Screw) politeness,\u201d Nye said firmly. \u201cWomen are socialized to be polite in almost every situation they\u2019re in. \u2026 We should feel like we have the right as much as anybody else to protect our space and our boundaries. We\u2019re afraid we\u2019re going to look silly or be wrong. You know what? 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